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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: May 21, 2011 2:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs that improved with age yes and no

it always amazes me how vastly different people experiences are. For instance I like the country sound ( which is an opinion not an experience ) but I think 71 is THE year for that sound way better than the 73/74 you mentioned. Im talking specifically just the cowboy numbers. But I`m absolutely amazed you don`t see the brilliance of 72. I think their sound after europe in the fall has a more hard edge agressive tone that i could see your argument on being forced ( i still love it ) but imo Europe 72 is bar none THE best the band ever played or sounded. Every show is perfect and their tone so well balanced and majestic. a lot that i attribute to keith and the grande piano. im not one of those that has to have jamming to be good some of my favorite dead are the subtle little nuiances and touches and extra detail they throw in to just a simple song. but as far as no jamming 72 has some incredible stuff. the dark stars went further than ever before and they turned the other one into way deeper spaces than just the all balls out hit you over the head intesnity it had before

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Poster: utopian Date: May 21, 2011 6:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs that improved with age yes and no

It is interesting the different eras that grab a hold of people. There has been one time or another that grabs me but I would generally say the dead peaked several times

Summer68-spring 69
Spring 73-summer74
Spring 77
Spring 78
Fall 79
Fall 82
Sumer 89
Spring 90
Is generally what I regard highly, with of course many good shows in between.

Spring 71 i enjoy as well A little more of a classic sound, timeless, It hits me like dead doing mowtown Would. E72 had alot if effect on it, the country twang, too arranged and orchestrated for me. whilst the fall 72 got deeper darker in the jams, I really like pigpen, Not his organ as
much as his songs that he sung. I think Keith was beyond brilliant, musically, for the most part. But I don't think it came together until spring 77 for the cleanest, tightest, jam oriented, start to finish blistering shows.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: May 21, 2011 5:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs that improved with age yes and no

JOTS,anyone who would post something with the words "mowtown gleen" in it pretty much invalidate anything else they have to say,I can't say that I'm surprised that he doesn't get 72' because he clearly doesn't get anything.

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Poster: utopian Date: May 22, 2011 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs that improved with age yes and no

A well conceived argument rooted in wisdom and logic.

.....

"Earl!.... Quick!!.... I don't understand what he's saying.
Kill it!"

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Poster: utopian Date: May 21, 2011 6:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs that improved with age yes and no

Listen to whatever you like, of course. Engage in discussion if you wish its not my goal to convince you of anything. We all have different perspectives and desires. And there us alot if changes to track and appreciate in the vast catalog.

Yea i hear you, some people like the first set standard reads, 'play it like the album jerry.' and don't require the sauce to get their rocks off. I can see that perspective and Of course there was jamming in e72, but more often relegated to end of set 2. Yes some if the darkstars went far, well long but sometimes that train went off the tracks to screeching or a complete stop, as in pause of the action, 5-4-72. But what I can clarify is there is a affect, or color, or nuance, or tone of the deads playing in 72 that sometimes hurts my head. If that's the way I can describe it. If I'm not in the ultra mood or doing research, it doesnt stay on too long. Just my own personal preference. The vocals, playing, song choice, themeing was
too much in the vein of the stretching harsh psychedelia country terrain.

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Poster: SpacedAgain Date: May 21, 2011 11:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs that improved with age yes and no

Yeah '72 is quite good. I like August and September about as well as the Spring. Beside the standards, The Other One on 9-28 is one that bears repeated listening.